Sonia Narang IPS: She is bold super cop


She’s young, bright, has low tolerance for `powerful’ troublemakers, asserts her authority confidently and is controversies’ favourite child. 

There was a time when a list of super cops would hardly ever have entertained a woman in its midst. Not anymore. Thankfully, the glass ceiling is well and truly broken in this terrain. Meet Sonia Narang, the IPS officer known across Karnataka for her forthrightness in the most audacious of circumstances. Presently, the Deputy Commissioner (South Division) of Bangalore. Her zero tolerance of anyone flouting the law has won her ample acclaim and even a little notoriety throughout the state.

A native of Chandigarh, she excelled in her studies in School and college and was a gold medalist in the Punjab University. Her father retired as a deputy superintendent of police. She cleared the civil services after two failed attempts in 2002. 
At the Lal Bahadur Shastri Academy in Mussoorie she met her life partner, Ganesh Kumar while training for IPS. It was not a happy love story but all went on well and got married to him in 2005. 
She has son Shaurya, she is very religious and never leaves home without performing the puja. Her husband is a IPS of the Bihar Cadre.
A native of Chandigarh, she comes from a police family. Her father A N Narang retired as a deputy superintendent of police. She excelled in studies in school and college. A North Zone topper in the 12th and a gold medalist in BA (hon), she secured the Punjab University Merit Scholarship and national scholarship from the HRD ministry for three years. She also has a Master's degree in Sociology through distance education.

The opportunity to provide instant relief to people made her set her mind on the civil services. After two unsuccessful attempts, she cleared it in 2002. Her father's police background and her staunch belief that a uniform commands respect made her choose the Indian Police Service.
Her first assignment, as a probationer in 2004, was at Gulbarga district and she had to manage the crime-ridden Afzalpur during that election year. Wasn't that tough for an inexperienced officer? "I worked hard and ensured order. The local politicians didn't have the courage to speak to me. It was challenging and I really enjoyed it,'' she says.

The next posting was at Bailhongal in Belgaum district. There, she had to control the people's wrath against the police over a custodial death at Ramdurg police station. "My personal goodwill made a difference,'' is her take on the matter.

In 2006 came her controversial stint, at Davanagere. Renukacharya created a furore accusing her of slapping him in public. Did she really do that? "We had imposed prohibitory orders but both Congress and BJP workers defied it and gathered at a place. As the situation was going out of control, we asked them to disperse in vain. We had to lathicharge and in the melee, he also got some blows,'' is all she says about it.


Quiz her on her frequent run-ins, especially with politicians and her explanation is: "I am fair to all. I go by the law. I am too straightforward. Yes, some times, it creates differences of opinion with some people. But, in my experience, most politicians want senior officers to be fair.''

SARAH RIZVI (IPS) : An inspiration to all




SARAH RIZVI (IPS) failed in the first two attempts in the preliminary exam but succeeded in the third attempt.

Sarah Rizvi, 29 is the only Muslim woman IPS (Indian Police Service) officer in Gujarat Police. She is the role model for every parent who wants to teach their girl child and for all those women aspirants of Civil Service Exams. She is from the 2008 batch of Gujarat cadre.
Born in Mumbai, Sarah belongs to an educated family. Her father Afzal Ahmed is a Science Graduate and Mother Nigar Rizvi is an alumnus of Aligarh Muslim University. Her brother Wasif Rizvi is a civil Engineer employed in Saudi Arabia and sister Sameera is a computer science graduate settled in Dubai. Sarah married to Munawar Khan, a trainee Asst. Security Commissioner in RPF, in 2008.

Excerpts from interview with Sarah Rizvi

Q: Tell us about your childhood and education.
Sarah: I am from a humble background. My father was a small businessman dealing in readymade garments. My grandfather died early in my life but my maternal grandfather loved me very much. I was born in Mumbai and brought up and got educated in Mumbai. I did graduation in commerce from MMK College, Mumbai.

Q: Why did you opt for Civil Services?
Sarah: After completing graduation from MMK College, I attended a lecture on competitive exam. I got inspired by a lecture of Dr. K.M. Arif, educationist and chairman of Dream Foundation.

I failed in the first two attempts in the preliminary exam but succeeded in the third attempt. I wanted to become Chartered Accountant and completed Foundation Course while doing graduation. But Dr. Arif suggested that I should go for civil services. My family supported me in decision making. MESCO, Modern Educational Social & Cultural Organisation, a trust in Mumbai helped me financially. Finally I got training for the IPS from Mussoorie, Uttarakhand.

Q: How did Muslim society react over your achievement? Did you get any awards?
Sarah: I cleared UPSC exam in 2008. AMU recognized and awarded me. Even when I topped in XII exam, I was appreciated and felicitated by our neighborhood in Andheri (w), Mumbai.

Q: Can you share your experience of the first day as an IPS officer and where were you posted first?
Sarah: My first posting was in Jamnagar district of Gujarat as a probationer IPS for the six months and then I was transferred as Assistant Superintendent of Police, ASP in Gondal, Rajkot. On my first day I detected a case where four bikers looted a man within 24 hours. That’s the most memorable day of my life.

Q: Women are emotional. Do you have any experience when you got emotional?
Sarah: Whether men or women, Police are also human being. We have to deal with the people who are in distress and we are trained for it. We have to be tough because we deal with criminals and getting emotional will affect our duty towards the society.

Q: Your worst day as an IPS officer.
Sarah: After becoming an IPS officer, I loved my job and never got upset with my duties. In fact I am proud to be a woman IPS Officer. Having said that I think when Naxalites killed 78 CRPF personnel in Dantewada I felt very bad. That day was my worst day, I think.

Q: Are you related to any social activities besides being an IPS.
Sarah: I am member of MESCO, a Mumbai based NGO and they call me very often in their programmes to inspire and guide others.

Q: What’s your hobby?
Sarah: I love my mother tongue Urdu. I listened to Urdu Gazalas and also tried my hand in writing it although could not publish it. I used to write articles in my college days which got published. I also like to cook and do it very often for my family.

Q: Do you have a dream that remains to be fulfilled?
Sarah: All my dreams have come true. But, yes, after becoming an IPS I would like to change the image or the public perception about the Police force.

Q: Who is your Role Model?
Sarah: While in training as IPS, I was very impressed and learnt a lot from our Director Mr. K. Vijay Kumar. He was the director of Sardar Vallabh Bhai Patel National Police Academy in 2009-10, an IPS from Tamilnadu cadre.

Q: Who is your best friend?
Sarah: My sister Sameera is my best friend.

Q: Any message for Muslim women.
Sarah: I would like to convey to all women that life is a precious gift from Allah and only we can make or spoil it. I urge Muslim parents to educate their girl children and make them capable of making their own decisions. I dedicate a couplet to those girls who are taking education as a challenge…
Shahraahe Zindagi se Doston Guzro to Yun,
Dhoondhne wale Tumhara Naqsh-e Pa Dhoondha Kare.

Vaibhav Nimbalkar , IPS


Q. Did you start early, since when you were motivated to be an IAS officer?

Ans: I was motivated during the vacations after 10+2 & thus, chose to go for BSc instead of Engg in spite of good marks.
I studied Mathematics keeping in mind as my 1st opt. but later on dropped it. Therefore, I actually started preparing only after my grad. i.e. in June 2007.

Q. Is there any significant event that motivated you to join civil services?

Ans: I participated in Tsunami Relief & Rehabilitation Camp in 2004-05 with an NGO in Pune named 'Chanakya Mandal' run by an Ex-IAS officer. Earlier, I got motivated seeing him around but the camp taught me a lot about ground realities w.r.t. governance in India. I realized how the Volunteer Spirit would do miracles if assisted by the powers of an IAS.

Q. Please tell us about your family background?

Ans: We are a four-member family. My father is an Admin.Officer in New India Assurance Co.Ltd. My mother is the house-minister & My younger sister is a film-actress. It's all because of the unconditional familial support I'm here.

Q. For how many years you have been preparing for this examination?

Ans: I started preparing exactly after my grad. i.e. from June 2007.

Q. How did you choose you optional?

Ans: W.r.t. 5 criteria-
1. Interest/Liking in the subject,
2. Grasp & scoring ability,
3. Syllabus,
4. Good coaching &/or material available, and
5. Previous years' question papers.

I took 5 months to decide my 1st optional. (I decided to go for Socio as 1st opt. in Sept.2007!)

Q. Being through in the first attempt, what was your recipe for success?

Ans: I believe in originality & honesty i.e. originality of thoughts in answers & honesty in my studies. Besides, I never got myself bogged down by newer material flowing in the market. I remained faithful to the standard sources only & applied my own mind & logic while writing the answers. Moreover, adapting yourself to the changing patterns/trends of UPSC is a must!

Q. What was your strategy for prelims?

Ans: Prelims is a 'screening test' & not scoring test. I got myself assured of 90+ correct ans in optional & 70+ correct in GS. Revision is the key for GS. I did at least 5 revisions each of opt & GS. Previous years' quetions gave me correct direction. Besides, I practiced solving some papers for inculcating the pre-decided strategy (e.g. how many questions to attempt; which section to tackle first/last in the exam, etc.)

Q. What was your strategy for Mains?

Ans: 'Thought process' helped me a lot! I used to think of point-form ans in my mind (in lean time) which I used to write down again while practicing ans. Here too, I consciously adopted the 'originality' in my answers. e.g. I did not write a single sentence 'as it is' from my class-notes, instead I wrote the answer. only after applying my mind on it, in the MAINS. Besides, a regular study of 10-12 hours (Reading+Contemplation+Writing) is mandatory!

Q. What is your view on Coaching Institutes? Did you join any or referred to their notes? Please tell us about the role of coaching institutes in your success.

Ans: Coaching institutes play the role of a compass. Some good ones can play a crucial role if a person is stuck with basic difficulties in the subject. In my case, I had no background of any of my optionals, hence I preferred joining good coaching for both considering the paucity of time too. But beware of many fake ones running around/mushrooming!
I'd joined- Sociology- Upendra Gaur (UIAS-Delhi); Marathi Litt- Pravin Chavan (Pune); GS- Jnana Prabodhini (Pune).

Q. How did you prepare for Interview? Is there any contribution of the Internet especially this community in it?

Ans: I referred to standard sources like newspaper (Indian Express), Magazines (South Asia politics, Eco-Pol Weekly, The Economist, et al.) I practised communication & presentation skills (being an instructor in Basic Courses in Jeevanvidya Mission helped me a lot!); gave at least 4-5 mock interviews. I used internet especially the Wikipedia a lot! Our interview preparation community helped me think of newer aspects of a single issue.

Q. What was your backup plan in case you failed?

Ans: None. I'm a die-hard optimist! I don't like to divide my energy with different career plans. Maybe a sound financial background supported my determination. BUT I'd suggest civil services aspirants to have at least one backup plan at least after the second (failed) attempt!

Q. Did you appear for any State PSCs as well? If, yes, of which states? Please tell us about your experience with the State PSCs. Is this option a good backup in case you fail in CSE?

Ans: State PSCs are far below an aim! I always aimed high & that helped me strive relentlessly. Besides, honest preparation of UPSC itself increased my potential & stamina too! I still reckon that this is all subjective w.r.t. everyone's individual capacities & likings.

Q. What is your opinion about necessity of going to Delhi for CSE preparation?

Ans: Going to Delhi has certainly become a fad! I too went to Delhi but I had a crystal clear plan & vision in my mind. I went there for Sociology & did only that! Nothing else. Besides, Delhi has its own benefits & disadvantages too! One should actually sit down & ponder upon what he/she really needs from Delhi & what Delhi actually offers to you. Research the concerned institute(s) well, ask the seniors, meet the concerned teachers before joining it. But, if you can do better on your own & have a good start with the subject, then no need to join any coaching.

Q. Tell us about the books you referred for 1) GS, 2) Sociology and 3) Marathi Literature.

Ans: For GS-
History - Spectrum (Modern India),
Polity - Wizard, NCERT-Indian Consti. at work,
Economy - Eco. survey, 11th std. NCERT, Chronicle mag. for current Eco. affairs,
Geography - NCERTs (8th-12th std.), Atlas,
Sci.- NCERTs (having a sci background, i need not do much herein),
Mental Ability- Quantitative Aptitude by R.S. Agrawal,
Statistics - My own B.Sc. books,
Current Events - Newspaper (Indian Express), Chronicle mag.

For Sociology -
TB Bottomore (first 80 pages),
Ritzer &/or Coser (Thinkers),
Haralambos,
Mandelbaum (optional),
Social Movements in India - MSA Rao,
Bipan Chandra or Sumeet Sarkar,
SC Dubey- Social change,
Yogendra Singh- Modernisation of Indian Tradition, Social change, Social change & stratification,
MN Shriniwas- Caste-Its 20th centuary avatar,
Nadeem Husnain- Tribal India,
Madan & Muzumdar- Intro. to Social Anthropology,
Population Studies- Bhende & Kanitkar
Horton & Hunt- Sociology (for basic understanding & chapter on 'Common sense & Sociology'),
Robet Stern- Changing India,
BA IGNOU Notes (Prelims only),
MA IGNOU Notes (Mains only),
Oxford + Scott Sociology Dictionaries,
Any authentic guide for ready reference (Unique Publi. or MP Singh-Jawahar Publi.)

Newspaper - Social issues (facts & other data).

For Marathi Litt. -
Class notes of Pravin Chavan sir,
Pradakshina 1 & 2,
Prescribed texts for paper 2,
Weekly published Book Reviews in newspapers
& some 'other' countess books for extra inputs !

Q. Tell us about the magazines and newspapers your read and how much time did you devote for it daily.

Ans: Newspapers- Indian Express; Hindu(1st page & International issues only).
Magazines- Chronicle, Wizard (Select Articles- for Essay prep.n only), The Economist, South Asia Politics, et al.
I devoted an hour & half daily for both combined together.

Q. How did you manage time during preparation? Can you give a glimpse of your daily and monthly schedule? For how many hours did you study?

Ans: I'm a creative kind of a person. I never followed a pre-set schedule! Still, i made sure that i study for at least 8-10 hours a day on an average. I even went for some good art movies & dramas every alternate week as i love them.

Q. Tell us about your hobbies and how were you able to integrate them to your preparation.

Ans: I'm a follower of Jeevanvidya Philosophy. I do take part in its various social welfare activities, spreading the knowledge of Jeevanvidya across villages, towns & cities. This has tremendously helped me mentally, physically & spiritually too! A tenet of Jeevanvidya says 'Love work honestly, bless all sincerely & you'll be blessed by God according to Laws of Nature'. I'm following this philosophy & getting good benefits out of it. In a nutshell, it has become the oxygen of my life!

Q. Sum up your tryst with UPSC in a couple of lines.

Ans: I'm grateful to UPSC for helping me find my own unknown potentials throughout this preparation & thereby helping me know myself better! With all the loopholes prevalent in the system, it's still a service worth putting your life for!

Q. Give a small motivational message to the community especially the newcomers.

Ans: 'Love your work honestly, Bless all sincerely & you'll be blessed by God according to laws of nature.' Always remember that, 'You are the Architect of your destiny!' A universal prayer has helped me keep myself positively charged always, it'll help you too! All the very best!

Y P Singh joined the Indian Police Service in 1985



During his stint, he dealt with high-profile cases like the US-64 scam and the Panna-Mukta oilfield deal. But he was often at odds with the powers-that-be because his investigations uncovered uncomfortable facts, which he was not willing to conceal, at any cost.

To prevent him from disturbing the status quo, he was shunted to insignificant postings while his contemporaries received accolades, medals and promotions.

Nearly 20 years later, he quit [his resignation is yet to be accepted] because he couldn't take the harassment; he was hounded for being honest.

In his resignation letter to the secretary, Union ministry of home affairs, Singh said, 'Despite being one of the most outstanding officers of the country, I exist, debilitated and belittled, like a living corpse.'

After learning of Singh's decision, director general of police (retired) S S Puri, said: 'It's a sad day for the IPS and the Maharashtra police when upright officers feel coerced to leave public service before completing their tenure.'

Singh spoke to Senior Copy Editor Salil Kumar and Senior Correspondent Vijay Singh about his career, some of the cases he handled and corruption in the police force. The first of a two-part interview:

You experienced work-related problems for a long time. What is the immediate reason for your resignation?

The decision was taken after several years of deliberation.

What was the provocation?

It was a cumulative effect. In 1996, I was working in the CBI when I was asked to return to my parent cadre. I belong to the Maharashtra cadre. At that time I was trying to expose very big scams, including the one in the Unit Trust of India.

Finally, in 2001, when the US-64 scam became public, about 2 crore people, mostly middle-class Indians, lost money.

When a person is doing outstanding work in an organisation like the CBI but is ill-treated while the corrupt ones are honoured with medals and promotions, I knew that I could not sustain myself in the police force.

The easy course would have been to shake hands with the corrupt and enjoy the best of life. I decided not to take that course. Instead, I studied law and got a degree.

Who was responsible for the UTI scam?

It was the organisation as such It did not happen in a day but was the result of ten years of mismanagement. The mismanagement peaked around 1994-1995.

When S A Dave was the chairman?

Yes. Under him, UTI repeatedly made dubious investments, including some in contravention of rules and regulations.

Can you be more specific?

It was openly investing in securities banned by the Securities and Exchange Board of India, saying UTI was not governed by SEBI rules. They were investing in lock-in shares and debentures of companies.

If questions had been raised about these issues in 1991, we would not have had the US-64 scam.

Did politicians let the people down? Were they involved?

Without political support, such big scams cannot take place. Only when you try to unravel the truth will you come to know whether politicians were involved. But the truth is not allowed to come out at all!

The Panna-Mukta oilfield case was the most controversial one you handled. Can you tell us something about it?

The Oil and Natural Gas Commission had discovered the oilfield. It was literally screaming in despair when it was told by the government to share it with private companies. ONGC officials were unhappy as it had huge potential. Their argument was that if the government wants to give away something, let it give an undiscovered oilfield.

How much did the government lose?

There has been no calculation of that. The entire oilfield was almost given free of cost -- ONGC retained 40% ownership while Reliance and Enron shared the rest.

How much oil does it produce?

Around 4 to 5 million tonnes per annum (India's oil consumption is around 110 million tonnes). The government gave such an oilfield virtually free to private companies.

The CBI was very angry with me for investigating the deal. They tried to hush up the case. Its officials cut my phone, withdrew my car, my assistants, deputed men to get my house vacated. The Supreme Court passed strictures against the CBI officers. But no action was taken against them.

When I was thrown out of the CBI, I went to the Central Administrative Tribunal and complained against the agency.

You are never able to complete your investigations.

A case can be concluded if one officer handles it from beginning to end. Often, midway through an investigation, the investigation officer is transferred. Then it takes just one corrupt officer to ruin a case.

You also opposed the merger of the Global Trust Bank with the Oriental Bank of Commerce. Why?

The merger protected the interests of the depositors, but not the shareholders. The equity was wiped off. Besides this, there were certain violations of the law for which nobody has been held accountable.

Who was responsible?

The Reserve Bank of India. The problem was in the offing for the last three or four years. Even towards the end, the RBI put out a press note saying that GTB was in a very good condition. When the RBI knew the bank was in bad shape, why did it issue a press note misguiding the people?

Coming to corruption in the police force, is an IPS official more likely to be corrupt than a constable?

The general perception is that corruption is linked to salary. But it is not so. Senior officers often earn at least five or six times more than constables, who earn about Rs 5,000 per month. Plus they get perks like official accommodation, car with driver, domestic help, telephone, yet he is more corrupt. The more money they make, the greedier they become.

An officer earning Rs 30,000 wants a crore of rupees. He starts taking bribes. Then he wants Rs 3 crore, then Rs 5 crore; it never ends.

So there is no link between salary and corruption. Corruption is basically a state of mind. It is linked to greed. Otherwise, how is it you can find more honest constables than senior officers?

Also, corruption can be divided into various degrees. Some officers are honest to the core. They will not allow other people to demand or accept bribes. There are very few people like this.

Some won't take money but won't stop others from doing so. They are honest people, but spineless. I say a spineless man is a dead man. So we have officers who are honest but dead.

Corruption has been institutionalised in the police force. So there are some officers who only take money, which comes in the routine course of duty.

And then there are the vultures. The bribes that come in the routine course are just not enough for them. They are always looking for avenues to secure more.

What is the potential for earning in the IPS?

If he is in a good posting in a city like Mumbai, a vulture can earn around Rs 25 lakh to Rs 30 lakh per month from ladies bars alone.

In one month?

Yes. Some ladies bars pay up to Rs 5 lakh per month in bribes while the smaller ones pay up to Rs 100,000.

Do all ladies bars in Mumbai have to pay bribes?

They cannot function otherwise.

Are all the top officers in the city corrupt?

No. Some will demand bribes, not all. But those who are not demanding bribes are not doing anything to curb the activities of those who are and, hence, are ineffective.

Also, there is a reasoning behind the corruption. If you paid bribes to obtain a certain posting, then you are fearless. You can recover that money, and more, through bribes. There is nobody to stop you.

If you did not pay, the same posting may fetch a much smaller amount in bribes. The reason is that since bribes were not paid to higher-ups, the officer is afraid to demand any from the public fearing disciplinary action.

You have mentioned in your book that the IPS has become a lobbying ground for posts. Can you explain that?

IPS postings are put up for sale. You have to approach an agent or a politician

Who are these agents?

Anybody can be an agent. Generally, these are people who know politicians, bureaucrats, police officers and businessmen. If an officer wants a posting, he will contact an agent. The agent will know the concerned people, senior officers, ministers. There are a lot of agents, powerbrokers. They get the work done.

Has there been any improvement after the Telgi scam?

No. If there are 100 corrupt officers, only one or two were caught. What difference does it make? The others are more careful now. Everything is as it was earlier.

Are you saying that Mumbai does not have a single police officer with spine?

If anyone has spine, he will be in the position I am in today.

In your book Carnage by Angels, you portray an officer getting his lessons in corruption from a constable. Is that how it happens in reality too?

Those who want to learn these things do so by any means. Many people pick up the ropes during training at the police academy itself. When they are later posted to various districts, they begin interacting with people.

Some citizen may come and say, 'Arre sahab, hum to policewalon ke mitr hain' (Sir, I am your well-wisher). Then he will start giving you ideas. At that time, people come to know who is corrupt.

Corrupt officers find a link to bribe-givers. The link-man collects the bribes on their behalf. A junior officer -- generally of the rank of sub-inspector -- acts as the link. In a month or two, new officers become well-versed with the system.

You don't need a lot of expertise to learn these things.

There are a limited number of officers in a state. So, if an officer does something in one district, everyone in the state comes to know what kind of a person he is. Wherever he is transferred, agents and corrupt policemen approach him. He will enter into an unholy nexus with them.

How is corruption institutionalised? How are bribe amounts fixed?

It depends on the earning potential.

Take the customs department for example. Consider a telephone instrument that costs Rs 100 and the total customs duty on it amounts to 60%, which is Rs 60 in this case.

A corrupt customs officer will put the value of the phone at just Rs 10. Hence, the duty amounts to Rs 6 causing a loss of Rs 56 to the exchequer.

Of this, 20% or Rs 11 is paid as bribe to the customs officer.

That is how a bribe amount is calculated. It is a percentage of the duty the government loses.

Y P SinghWhich postings are favoured?

Those in the customs department though with liberalisation the pickings have reduced. Another is the income tax department.

One dishonest income tax officer, during his service of 35 years, is capable of causing a loss of around Rs 1,000 crore to the exchequer. Money that could have been spent to build infrastructure, hospitals, schools, pensions.

These officers are educated, Class I officers who enjoy a certain standing in society. Yet, they are worse than gangsters.

A corrupt police officer posted in Mumbai can affect the lives of several thousand people. For example, he can convert thousands of women into prostitutes. If, on an average, each woman entertains 10 customers daily and each of them has five relatives -- parents, wives and kids, in all, the officer would have somehow influenced the lives of all these people.

Why doesn't the CBI or the Anti-Corruption Bureau stop this loot?

It is not just one person who gets the money. It goes right up to the top brass. If those below try to stop the flow of bribes, their career will be ruined. There are many ways to do it. After all, everybody makes mistakes and it is easy to institute an enquiry.

Hence, those who are into illegal businesses begin by seeking permission from the Anti-Corruption Bureau, CBI and other people in authority.

For example, even a constable can keep a check on ladies bars. Toh businessman pehle hafta dega, phir bar shuru karega (so a person will first pay bribes and then start his business).

Same with customs and other departments. If someone wants to commit fraud, he will first fix the amount of bribe and then begin his operations.

Small offences one can commit, but if you want to do something big, you cannot do it without the help of those in authority.

Aren't you painting a very grim picture of the police force?

I am only painting a realistic picture. It is an open secret, a fact known to all. When you see illegal activities all around, you see so many illegal buildings coming up, do you think nobody knows about them?

If you really want to see for yourself, just visit a colony housing income tax officials and then one housing employees of the postal department.

Go to the post and telegraph colony in Matunga [in northcentral Mumbai]. There will not be a single car. Then go to the customs colony, which houses mostly Class III officers. You will find cars, cars, cars, cars, cars all over the place. But they are drawing the same salary.

Why do people give statements to the police and later recant, like Zaheera Shaikh [the prime witness in the Best Bakery case]? How can it be stopped?

Unquestioningly accepting a statement given to the police would be wrong because it may have been made under duress.

There are two types of statements made to the police. In the first, a person admits doing something illegal but offers no details. This is meaningless. It comes under Section 25 of the Criminal Procedure Code. It is not admissible in court.

In the second, he accepts his crime and also reveals details, leading to recovery of material that can be used as evidence. This comes under Section 27. This statement is admissible as evidence.

Police officers should prefer confessions under the latter to make their case stand scrutiny in courts.

What about videotaping confessions?

It is not done because it is not admissible as evidence in court. Videotaping has no meaning if the confession is made just before the police.

On suspicion that a witness may turn hostile, there is a provision under Section 164 of the Criminal Procedure Code where a confession can be recorded in front of a magistrate at the time of investigation.

Consider the case of the Kanchi seer, if he was making a confession, the police had the option of recording it in the presence of a magistrate.

Now the police claims he confessed while the seer denies it. What does it show?

For a quick trial, an investigation should be foolproof and credible.

If all police officers know these laws, then why don't they use it?

They should. If a confession is genuine, no one will hesitate to confess in the presence of a magistrate.

But the police may not be confident that a suspect or witness will accept his guilt before a magistrate. Hence, a lot of cases fail at the trial stage. Policemen don't use the various provisions of the law.

How much do you identify with Raghu, the protagonist of your novel Carnage of Angels?

It is more of assimilation... a novel close to reality.

In the book, Raghu joins the force as a sub-divisional police officer. He goes to present his credentials to the superintendent of police of Kolhapur but is made to wait for two hours. Later the SP screams at him for not saluting properly. Does that incident have any basis in reality?

This generally happens. The trick is -- lame them and tame them. Seniors rag junior officers till he is intimidated and looks up to them for approval. Then, he can be managed.

Why were you overlooked for promotion?

My batch comprised 82 officers. All except me have become either deputy commissioners or joint commissioners. I am still a deputy commissioner of police-rank officer. Favoured people get all the good postings.

Is it true you plan to start a law firm with retired director general of police S S Puri?

Yes. I will start it in March 2005.

Have your children expressed a desire to join the IPS?

Of course. They have a fascination for the IPS. They don't understand. They see only the uniform, vehicle, bungalow. My daughter wants to join the IPS and come back as a commandant in the same place from where I was once sacked. She says 'this is my dream because you were thrown out from there.'

My daughter is only in the fourth standard but my son is older. He is in Class X, he will understand.